Speaking of lies...

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Events' started by JG, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Now Trump's lawyer says that HE paid Stormy Daniels that $130,000.

    That $130k that people swore never changed hands.

    And he says he did it to protect Trump. What??

    This isn't fake news he admits on camera he paid her $130,000. Does ANYONE not realize what happened here?
     
  2. UTGrad91

    UTGrad91 Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Speaking of lies, everything out of your mouth after "Hi, I'm JG" qualifies as such, lol.
     
  3. Bobcat 9

    Bobcat 9 Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Oh snap.
     
  4. Bobcat 9

    Bobcat 9 Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Yeah, but Hillary has people suicided.
     
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  5. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    What's not true here 91?
     
  6. SAhornfan

    SAhornfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    It's not a lie if you believe it's true.
     
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  7. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Dude said he paid her. How's that a lie?
     
  8. SAhornfan

    SAhornfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Did i say it was?
     
  9. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Then why make the post?
     
  10. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    More of the sh!t show. His lawyer admitted it was hush money, but indicated she was lying. But the money was to silence her.

    If so, that's not how Trump usually goes after folks who he thinks are obviously smearing him. He would have sent a cease and desist letter, sued her, etc. This time, he just paid her. If you don't think Trump knew/approved of this, you know how the saying goes...
     
  11. Gamma

    Gamma Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    One of the ironies of the so-called Information Age is that there is so much false information floating around that it’s hard to know what’s true and what’s not. Are there any honest men in Congress? Have we ever had an honest President? Unfortunately the truth about anything is a very rare commodity and usually possessed in very small quantities by very few people.
     
  12. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Because he has nothing better to do than make inane comments in an effort to get a rise out of you?
     
  13. hager41

    hager41 Member Who Talks

    We have been told by democrats for years that it is ok to lie about sex. So, I guess the response is: so what, Trump banged a porn star while married. Not illegal and did not lie about it under oath. Also, there is nothing illegal about paying someone for a NDA even for something as seedy as this.
     
  14. SmackBrown

    SmackBrown Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    The lefties here say there's nothing to see with the Nunes memo, and the corruption at senior positions in the FBI, yet anything that comes out on Trump, they jump on it. OMG! OMG! OMG!

    Pathetic partisan hackery.
     
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  15. SmackBrown

    SmackBrown Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Exactly.

    The hypocrisy is astounding.
     
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  16. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    No one said Trump did anything illegal.
     
  17. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Man, you never get tired of "But Clinton..." Earth to Smack, it's the coverup. It's the repeated clown show antics.

    We all know that Clinton lied about Monica. And we spent millions to get to that point.

    No one is claiming Trump did anything illegal.
     
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  18. mcb0703!

    mcb0703! Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Bill Clinton raping multiple women is acceptable to Dems; but dammit consensual sex between 2 Republicans?

    Oh hell no, they will not stand for that
     
  19. Gamma

    Gamma Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Nor does it appear that he has done anything like that since taking office.
     
  20. SAhornfan

    SAhornfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Since when do I have to explain myself to you?
     
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  21. hager41

    hager41 Member Who Talks

    I thought the implication in the OP was that trump or his attorney did something illegal. If not, then I am not sure what we are talking about. We knew months ago about this story and that trump and others were trying to whack a mole with denials until the story went away. So, we know Trump lies about sex just as many others and that Trump is not afraid to lie to protect himself while in office just as prior presidents (don’t forget the many whoppers his predecessor told).
     
  22. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Who's being hypocritical here?

    Your side went on ad nauseum about "family values". Now they don't matter any more.

    As far as this matter is concerned just admit it and move on.
     
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  23. JG

    JG Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Davis isn't a Republican. She is whatever you pay her to be.
     
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  24. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Let me ask you guys this. Since Clinton is always such a hot topic, do you think Starr should have asked Clinton about the Monica scandal when his investigation was about Whitewater? I think most of the conservatives here agree with the House's impeachment effort once it was clear he lied under oath.

    Fast forward to today. Mueller's charge wasn't to investigate Trump's extramarital affairs. But let's say that Mueller has decent evidence that the affair happened. Trump has already denied it. Should Mueller, should he ever get to question Trump under oath, ask him about the affair with the porn star? If he denies it and Mueller presents credible evidence that Trump lied and perjured himself, should he be prosecuted? Should the House impeach him?
     
  25. UTGrad91

    UTGrad91 Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Yes, it would only be a big deal if the money came from the campaign and not from Trump (or his attorney) personally.
     
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  26. Rupert Pupkin

    Rupert Pupkin Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    And that is ultimately what this comes down to....where did the the funds come from. This from the Wall Street Journal:

    According to the Wall Street Journal’s reporting, longtime Trump attorney Michael Cohen set up a separate LLC called Essential Consultants in October 2016 that he used as a vehicle to pay off Daniels in exchange for remaining silence about her past affair with the president, which occurred shortly after his wife Melania had given birth to their son, Barron Trump.


    Given that the payment made from the Trump campaign to Trump Tower Commercial LLC was for roughly the same amount that Essential Consultants LLC paid to Daniels — and given the fact that the payout occurred just one month after the 2016 presidential election ended — this transaction is sure to raise questions over whether campaign funds were used to cover the costs of paying off a porn star.
     
  27. SmackBrown

    SmackBrown Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Why would he use campaign money? He doesn't need to. He's not exactly broke.
     
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  28. hager41

    hager41 Member Who Talks

     
  29. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Yep. Trump's attorney could be in hot water, too, after his statements that he paid this money out of his own pocket and was not reimbursed.

    Interesting to know if Mueller is looking into this.
     
  30. cctxfan

    cctxfan Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    OK, fair enough, Hager. I don't think Mueller should try to get Trump to lie under oath about any affair, either.
     
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  31. mcb0703!

    mcb0703! Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Bill Clinton said the similar things to his multiple rape victims
     
  32. Rupert Pupkin

    Rupert Pupkin Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Got me, man. I'm only agreeing with UTGrad91 that if they trace the money to the campaign, it could be very, very bad. Seems that's why the lawyer came out and admitted to making the payment directly...to throw water on the "campaign funds were used" theory.
     
  33. SmackBrown

    SmackBrown Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Yeah. It doesn't make any sense...a multi-billionaire, taking a chance on getting caught using campaign funds to pay off a porn star?

    Of course, we are talking about Trump. Anything is possible I guess.
     
  34. Halas

    Halas Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Trump is not a good man.
     
  35. hager41

    hager41 Member Who Talks

    If Trump (along with his attorney) is too lazy to take the time understand that you can’t use campaign funds for um “personal debts”, then he deserves any sanction coming to him. Or, perhaps worse, if he knew and was simply too greedy to use his own funds for the payoff then, again, he deserves to be punished. Would this be an impeachable offense and sufficient for a conviction in the senate? I guess that depends on what party holds the house and senate. But, if he were to be thrown out of office for this, he would have only himself to blame.
     
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  36. Duke Silver

    Duke Silver Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    And democrats always said it’s policies that matter not the personal sexual activities of leaders. “Just look at France!” Things change, so drop the stupid gotcha nonsense.
     
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  37. Duke Silver

    Duke Silver Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    He’s a total piece of **** dingleberry on a rhino’s ass.
     
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  38. ole tnhorn

    ole tnhorn Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    So Trump lied. This must be new ground for POTUS.
    Edit: BTW not defending the POS POTUS
     
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  39. Gamma

    Gamma Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Just remember this. God loves Donald Trump just as much as he loves you or me or anyone else, and if our President has changed his ways, we should all rejoice.

    In the same way, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who changes both heart and life than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need to change their hearts.

    Luke 15:7
     
  40. Duke Silver

    Duke Silver Member Who Talks (A Lot!)

    Then god is an asshole.
     

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